Lost review for May 3
Wow. First and foremost - if you download this episode off the internet (from unofficial sources), you may miss the most important thing - the commercial. There was an actual commercial for the Hanso Organization. While it didn't reveal much, it did show a phone number:
1-877-HANSORG
I tried calling but wasn't able to get through (not surprising). I had mentioned a real world game and I think this must be part of it.
The episode itself was pretty intense. It focused on everyone's favorite character, Anna Lucia. We see why she left for Australia - she was a body guard for Jack's father. Jack apparently had another child and mistress out there.
Michael tells them that the Others look to be worse off than the survivors. Since Kate never talked about the costumes she found, Michael doesn't know this is a disguise. He said the Others are mostly older men and women, and he saw only two guns there. These were on guards at a hatch. Michael believes his son, and the rest of the children are there.
So the primary characters head off to get the guns from Sawyer. While there, they realize Ana has been left behind with Henry, and that she has a gun. Earlier in the episode she got into a fight with Henry.
Sorry for jumping around - but this is kind of important. Henry once again talks about the "good ones". Apparently the Others have separated each cast away into one of two groups. He also mentions the big boss. He says he is brilliant, but does not forgive mistakes, therefore he thinks that even if he is returned, he will be killed.
Anyway, back at the hatch, Michael and Ana are talking. Ana says she was not able to kill Henry, and Michael says he will do it for her.
Are you ready?
When Ana tells Michael the combination, he shoots Ana dead (yeah!). Libby walks in and she is shot dead as well. Michael opens the door and in front of Henry, he shoots himself in the arm.
I don't think Michael was crazy. He looked very upset at shooting Libby. I think the Others told him something about getting his son back if he did these things.
Comments
sorry, I don't think I got my point across.
I think Michael is either doing this under duress, or he is now one fo the Others. (Right now I think it is the latter). He may have been upset at shgooting Libby because she was one of 'the good ones'.
I think Michael is either doing this under duress, or he is now one fo the Others. (Right now I think it is the latter). He may have been upset at shgooting Libby because she was one of 'the good ones'.
# Posted By Scott Stroz
| 5/3/06 9:30 PM
One possibility- is that Micheal is a 'good one' and was converted? Or as you mentioned he was forced into doing this to free Walt.
I do think it's interesting that both characters that have had real life legal troubles were killed off... It will be interesting to see if they continue to show up in the flashbacks...
Jim
I do think it's interesting that both characters that have had real life legal troubles were killed off... It will be interesting to see if they continue to show up in the flashbacks...
Jim
# Posted By Jim
| 5/3/06 9:39 PM
Didn't Kate tell Jack about the costumes when they were on the way out to the jungle? So at least Jack knows too.
I think Michael did what he did to incite people to act against the others. He wants his boy back, he needs help to do it.
I think Michael did what he did to incite people to act against the others. He wants his boy back, he needs help to do it.
# Posted By Rob
| 5/3/06 9:40 PM
Wow, what an ending. Michael is clearly doing this on the premise that he will somehow get Walt back if he infiltrates his own crew and kills them off or sets them up to be killed. Just look at the coming attractions for next week when you see Mr. Eko falling from a tree. (And if they kill him off, I will have some serious words with Michael.) Also, there's no way the Others could let Michael escape from "crossing the line" unless he struck some sort of deal with them. The one thing you don't know is whether or not Michael actually kills the hostage after shooting himself or if he lets him go (I'm assuming he lets him go).
Finally, I had a feeling that Ana Lucia and Libby would get knocked off somehow because I've read in several places that the cast and crew all hated Michelle Rodriguez (prima donna) and Cynthia Watros has signed on to a pilot on another network.
PS -- Ray, how do you know that it was one of Jack's mistresses that the Dad went to see? Why couldn't it have been the dad's from another drunken escapade? Did I miss a reference?
Finally, I had a feeling that Ana Lucia and Libby would get knocked off somehow because I've read in several places that the cast and crew all hated Michelle Rodriguez (prima donna) and Cynthia Watros has signed on to a pilot on another network.
PS -- Ray, how do you know that it was one of Jack's mistresses that the Dad went to see? Why couldn't it have been the dad's from another drunken escapade? Did I miss a reference?
# Posted By Dave Carabetta
| 5/3/06 9:57 PM
I missed the Hanso commercial. When did they show it. I hope they will show it during the rebroadcast on the web.
I hope that all the ladies have learned their lesson about going off for romantic getaways on Craphole Island.
I hope that all the ladies have learned their lesson about going off for romantic getaways on Craphole Island.
# Posted By Michael Brennan-White
| 5/3/06 9:58 PM
Dave, if I said Jack's mistress, it was a mistake. I meant the father's mistress. I clearly remember him saying something like he had a right to see his daughter.
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 5/3/06 10:04 PM
OK. Your post reads:
"Jack apparently had another child and mistress out there."
That's why I thought I missed something. I assume you meant Jack's father. All good in my 'hood.
"Jack apparently had another child and mistress out there."
That's why I thought I missed something. I assume you meant Jack's father. All good in my 'hood.
# Posted By Dave Carabetta
| 5/3/06 10:26 PM
Totally my fault. I was too excited while writing. That and I'm still freaking sick (a cough).
# Posted By Raymond Camden
| 5/3/06 10:32 PM
I find it interesting that Jack's dad christened Ana Lucia "Sarah" which was Jack's wife's name.
# Posted By Michael Brennan-White
| 5/3/06 10:36 PM
All I have to say is... WOW... That was a triple gasper!
# Posted By Robert Owen
| 5/3/06 10:44 PM
I'm not so sure that Michael is killing other survivors of his own free will. I wonder if he hasn't been turned or brainwashed somehow, since he performs his killings quickly yet with intense personal reactions, almost as if he could react to his own actions but couldn't help himself. If he were doing it of his own free will, don't you think that he would show some hesitation or internal turmoil *before* pulling the trigger on his friends?
# Posted By Tom Mollerus
| 5/3/06 11:10 PM
# Posted By Bob Weston
| 5/4/06 12:45 AM
Ok, so if you visit the website, go to the newsletter section and sign up. It'll ask you for a screen name and then it gets all wierd. Check it out! Whoa, this is strange...but cool :)
# Posted By Bob Weston
| 5/4/06 12:52 AM
Not sure what to think about Michael being brainwashed or under duress. However, I wanted to discuss the commercial. I totally missed it because I Tivo'd the episode. When I read your blog, I went back to see it. I have a theory on this, so follow me...
It's all about advertising dollars. With the increased use of Tivo, the broadcasters know that fewer and fewer eyes are watching the commercials. So, here is ABC, with a hit show that uses a subtle and intriguing method to get people to pay close attention to the commercials so that they won't miss a clue. Makes the advertising costs for a slot in 'Lost' that much more of a premium.
It's all about advertising dollars. With the increased use of Tivo, the broadcasters know that fewer and fewer eyes are watching the commercials. So, here is ABC, with a hit show that uses a subtle and intriguing method to get people to pay close attention to the commercials so that they won't miss a clue. Makes the advertising costs for a slot in 'Lost' that much more of a premium.
# Posted By Damon Gentry
| 5/4/06 12:53 AM
Should also mention, once you enter your screen name, there was no visible submit button. I hit 'tab' and 'enter' and that's when it started wigging out.
# Posted By Bob Weston
| 5/4/06 12:54 AM
After it asks you for a screename, push "Next" then it will get all weird and it will say "can you read this" type "yes" then it is somthing else and asks for the password. When you type the wrong one, it will tell you to call the number in the tv ad.
# Posted By Kyle Hayes
| 5/4/06 1:23 AM
I've tried 'the numbers', and I've tried O106 as in the 'Oh-106' code given by the woman who says the line is busy. I've also tried 'nemaste'. I'm lost! Help!
# Posted By Damon Gentry
| 5/4/06 1:26 AM
I got through, listened to general info and then they hung up on me....
# Posted By Kyle Hayes
| 5/4/06 1:29 AM
Ok, got a password - 'breaking strain'. When you're done there, be sure to send Joop a message...more interesting stuff there!
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?thr...
http://forums.go.com/abc/primetime/lost/thread?thr...
# Posted By Bob Weston
| 5/4/06 1:37 AM
When you get through, there are 5 options:
1. General
2. Alvar Hanso
3. Thomas Mittelwerk
4. Hugh McIntyre
5. Peter Thompson
If you choose 1, you'll be transferred to a voice mailbox. However, before you get there, you'll hear a message in german (I think), then a short musical piece about Sprite (see, advertisements again). Finally, you get a "Verizon" voice mailbox for the Hanso Foundation. I was furiously typing while trying to listen. I think their address is:
544 Presond Klingby BK16054 Coppenhagen D
Can anyone confirm?
BTW: Perhaps we should move this to Ray's Lost Forum.
1. General
2. Alvar Hanso
3. Thomas Mittelwerk
4. Hugh McIntyre
5. Peter Thompson
If you choose 1, you'll be transferred to a voice mailbox. However, before you get there, you'll hear a message in german (I think), then a short musical piece about Sprite (see, advertisements again). Finally, you get a "Verizon" voice mailbox for the Hanso Foundation. I was furiously typing while trying to listen. I think their address is:
544 Presond Klingby BK16054 Coppenhagen D
Can anyone confirm?
BTW: Perhaps we should move this to Ray's Lost Forum.
# Posted By Damon Gentry
| 5/4/06 1:39 AM
# Posted By Kyle Hayes
| 5/4/06 1:40 AM
I am going to the forum
# Posted By Kyle Hayes
| 5/4/06 1:50 AM
More strange stuff...
http://forums.go.com/abc/oceanic/thread?threadID=1...
http://forums.go.com/abc/oceanic/thread?threadID=1...
# Posted By Bob Weston
| 5/4/06 2:05 AM
Hey all.
In the UK we were lucky enough to get the Hanso advert two days before the US, so we got a bit of a headstart.
The website is fantastic, and appears as though daily updates are available for the keen eyes amongst us who are able to check regularly.
I took screen shots of the site last night, and can post some later when I get home if it's still of interest to anyone?
Also, this link is the transcription of the UK phone line recordings.
It may be the same as the US, I'm not sure. http://lostpedia.com/wiki/0800666640
Plenty to be enjoying on this site. :)
Enjoy!
In the UK we were lucky enough to get the Hanso advert two days before the US, so we got a bit of a headstart.
The website is fantastic, and appears as though daily updates are available for the keen eyes amongst us who are able to check regularly.
I took screen shots of the site last night, and can post some later when I get home if it's still of interest to anyone?
Also, this link is the transcription of the UK phone line recordings.
It may be the same as the US, I'm not sure. http://lostpedia.com/wiki/0800666640
Plenty to be enjoying on this site. :)
Enjoy!
# Posted By Matt Gifford
| 5/4/06 5:56 AM
Anyone notice that they killed off both of the cast members that were charged with drunk driving in real life...
# Posted By Josh
| 5/4/06 7:40 AM
i think that michael is so desperate to get his "boy" back that he is now shooting people to inspire the survivors, any takers?
# Posted By Pat
| 5/4/06 8:47 AM
Well... He was acting more like he was under some sort of order. Maybe to get his boy they wanted him to kill Anna. From what Henry said, they seemed to want some sort of revenge for her killing their men on the other side of the island. Besides, he did apologize. That makes it OK, right? But Libby seemed more like an accident... She surprised him and he turned and fired on instinct. And he seemed.... momentarily.... upset.
# Posted By Robert Owen
| 5/4/06 8:59 AM
Yeah man, i don't really know what to think. there are a couple reasons i can think as to why Michael did what he did. the first one i thought of was that he bargained with the Others to get Walt back by freeing Henry. The other thought is that they are controlling Michael some how. Another reason could be that he is now an Other himself. He could have done it to inspire the other survivors to attack the Others. i don't think killing one of the best fighters (Ana Lucia) would be the best move for him to make if that was what he was trying to do.
One things for sure, Michael is holding a lot of cards right now.
I'm just so glad we don't have to wait 3-5 weeks to get a new episode!!!
One things for sure, Michael is holding a lot of cards right now.
I'm just so glad we don't have to wait 3-5 weeks to get a new episode!!!
# Posted By virgilcletus
| 5/4/06 10:41 AM
Both Michelle Rodriguez and Cynthia Watros were charged with seperate drunk driving charges:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1202053lost1....
Hence, taken from another forum:
MADD = Michael Against Drunk Driving
:)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1202053lost1....
Hence, taken from another forum:
MADD = Michael Against Drunk Driving
:)
# Posted By Adrian J. Moreno
| 5/4/06 11:03 AM
So I don't know if both Ana Lucia AND Libby are dead. In the preview for next week, someone said something like "She is dead. He killed her." All singular. Any thoughts?
Great ep, big twist at the end - feel sorry for Hurley, are they def. both dead?
Hmm, fact check, when Jack's dad leaves Anna Lucia to go into a "Cocktail Bar" (where he meets up with Sawyer)....
Unless you're intending to drink someting called a Fluffy Duck the only "Cocktail Bars" in Australia are in American movies and TV shows.
At least they had a right hand drive car.
Hmm, fact check, when Jack's dad leaves Anna Lucia to go into a "Cocktail Bar" (where he meets up with Sawyer)....
Unless you're intending to drink someting called a Fluffy Duck the only "Cocktail Bars" in Australia are in American movies and TV shows.
At least they had a right hand drive car.
# Posted By Andrew Muller
| 5/4/06 6:18 PM
My fiancee and I are wondering if Clair might be Jack's half-sister. There's got to be more to that story line. Or, is Clair's child Jack's sibling? I don't believe they ever talked about the father of Clair's child did they?
# Posted By Dan G. Switzer, II
| 5/5/06 9:33 AM
Good ideas Dan. When Jack's dad first talked to the blonde at that house my girlfriend and I were shocked--thinking that it was Claire. Not Claire but there's probably more to come about this.
# Posted By Daniel Roberts
| 5/5/06 11:04 AM
Dan,
The father of Claire's child was in at least one of her first season flashbacks. Jack's father is not the father of Claire's baby. I do like the idea of Claire being Jack's half sibling though.
The father of Claire's child was in at least one of her first season flashbacks. Jack's father is not the father of Claire's baby. I do like the idea of Claire being Jack's half sibling though.
# Posted By Ray Buechler
| 5/5/06 1:50 PM
Jack's dad is starting to be really important now.
Andrew: I don't think that that was the same bar that Jack's dad talked to Sawyer. Ana almost ran him over, but i don't remember any "Sawyer" flashbacks where he almost got run over. maybe in season 3???
Switzer: I am feeling the Claire Jack connection big time. I think that Jack's dad is Claire's dad. The father of Aaron was shown in her first flashback ep. he was the one that convinced her to keep the baby and then when it was too late to have an abortion he changed his mind and left her ass.
I'm not sure why it would be important to the plot if Jack and Claire are half-siblings, but things change so much in this show so who the heck knows?
Andrew: I don't think that that was the same bar that Jack's dad talked to Sawyer. Ana almost ran him over, but i don't remember any "Sawyer" flashbacks where he almost got run over. maybe in season 3???
Switzer: I am feeling the Claire Jack connection big time. I think that Jack's dad is Claire's dad. The father of Aaron was shown in her first flashback ep. he was the one that convinced her to keep the baby and then when it was too late to have an abortion he changed his mind and left her ass.
I'm not sure why it would be important to the plot if Jack and Claire are half-siblings, but things change so much in this show so who the heck knows?
# Posted By virgilcletus
| 5/5/06 1:58 PM
At this point everyone's making assumptions that Libby is dead. She was shot twice in the stomach and collapses, but we don't know if that killed her. For all we know, she may have been carrying something behind those blankets that slowed the bullets.
The actress that played Anna Lucia stated in interviews after the show aired that she knew from the day she signed her contract that her run was limited and she'd be killed off the show. Similar statements weren't heard, however, about Libby's character. Anyone hear anything semi-conclusive?
The actress that played Anna Lucia stated in interviews after the show aired that she knew from the day she signed her contract that her run was limited and she'd be killed off the show. Similar statements weren't heard, however, about Libby's character. Anyone hear anything semi-conclusive?
# Posted By Kevin Ford
| 5/5/06 3:09 PM
Libby probably won't die, because they have to do her flashback sequence, unless she will be part of another flashback episode. If anything she will probably slowly die over the next episode in between Eko and Locke fighting. As far as Michael, he's being mind controlled to do the things he did. Did you see how accurate he was when he shot the gun and how his hand trembled, like he didn't have control of it? Assuming that doctors are controlling the island through the use of electromagnetism, this could be possible. Just a thought!!
# Posted By Kip Cullen
| 5/5/06 10:24 PM
One more thing, what about the fact that Jack's dad was looking for his daughter. A blonde woman, in Austrailia, maybe Claire's mom? Maybe JAck and her are half brother and sister????? LOL!!
# Posted By Kip Cullen
| 5/5/06 10:26 PM
First, Anna is our favorite character? Actually I hate her and everyone else I know does as well. Second, I wouldn't be surprised if Anna and Libby are only seriously wounded and not dead at all.
# Posted By Mike
| 5/7/06 7:01 PM
RE: Claire's Baby and Jack's Father
I remembered them showing the boyfriend, but perhaps they're changing things up and the boyfriend wasn't really the father. I need to go back and watch the Claire flashback episode. I sort of remember her telling the boyfriend that the baby wasn't his, but blew it off as her making escuses to do what she wanted.
I remembered them showing the boyfriend, but perhaps they're changing things up and the boyfriend wasn't really the father. I need to go back and watch the Claire flashback episode. I sort of remember her telling the boyfriend that the baby wasn't his, but blew it off as her making escuses to do what she wanted.
# Posted By Dan G. Switzer, II
| 5/8/06 12:51 PM
omg i just watched it, so wasnt expecting that. although interesting how 2 two girls who were busted for drunk driving get killed off together, maybe they chose not to renew their contracts lol no idea, still very intense indeed.
# Posted By Michael Brennan-White
| 5/9/06 10:36 PM
I don't think its because Kate didn't talk about the makeup (I believe Michael was already gone when they found the makeup), rather, I think the Others don't know Kate, et al, were in the other hatch. They have no reason to believe that the survivors know the Others don't live like savages.